Achuthan, ECRI Not Budging

Lakshman Achuthan, whose Economic Cycle Research Institute has a strong track record of calling economic expansions and recessions, has faced a lot of criticism for ECRI’s contention that the U.S. is in a recession that started in mid-2012. But he and the group are not wavering.

“We’re not budging from our call,” Achuthan told Business Insider in an email. “Looking back, the epicenter of the recession was the half-year spanning Q4 2012 and Q1 2013, which saw just 0.6% annual GDP growth, mostly from a freak jump in agricultural inventories (w/out which it would be 1⁄4 percent).” He also says that early in the last few recessions “there were massive gyrations of two-to-four percentage points in GDP prints, generally downward, due to very belated revisions. So GDP for Q4 and Q1 could easily end up negative after revisions.”

Achuthan says that the notion that the U.S. economy is about to take off and reach “escape velocity” is flat-out wrong. Even ignoring December’s weak jobs numbers, he says employment trends have been worsening. While the employer portion of the government’s job survey has looked strong, those numbers typically get revised downward, he says. The household portion of the survey usually is subject to far less revision and its initial numbers are more trustworthy, he says, and they haven’t been very good. “Something that nobody seems to have noticed is that the household survey, adjusted to the payroll concept, actually shows a decline in employment since the summer,” he says.

Achuthan, ECRI: We’re Still in Recession

Lakshman Achuthan of the Economic Cycle Research Institute continues to say that the U.S. is in a recession that began in the middle of 2012. Achuthan tells Bloomberg Surveillance that initial GDP readings are often revised downward by 2% to 4% during recessions, meaning the weak growth numbers we’ve seen over the past year or so could actually be revised into negative territory. As for the strong manufacturing data coming from the Institute for Supply Management in recent months, Achuthan says the correlation between ISM’s manufacturing reports and actual production has “collapsed” in recent years. He thinks markets have become somewhat disconnected from fundamentals, and says the Federal Reserve’s efforts to generate a “wealth effect” may be pushing stocks higher, but they aren’t pushing the economy higher.

Achuthan Standing By Recession Call

Economic Cycle Research Institute chief Lakshman Achuthan stands by the well-respected group’s claim that a recession started last year. “Growth is not there,” Achuthan recently told Bloomberg Television, adding that he section of the population aged 35 to 54 “has lost almost a million jobs since the recovery began”. Achuthan says that while recent GDP reports have shown tepid growth, GDP often gets revised downward significantly — by 2% to 4% — for periods that involve recessions. Job creation figures also get revised downward a lot, too, he says, so time will tell if GDP growth has really been positive, and if job growth has been as substantial as initial figures indicate.

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Achuthan, ECRI Stand By Recession Call

Lakshman Achuthan of the Economic Cycle Research Institute is standing by his previous call about the U.S. having entered recession in the middle of 2012. Achuthan tells Bloomberg Surveillance that, while home prices have increased, “that does not mean you don’t have a recession.” He also says rising housing prices do “not mean an upturn in construction activity.” He says recessions are defined using four areas: production, employment, income, and sales. Both production and income peaked in July, he says.

Achuthan, ECRI: U.S. Is In Recession

Lakshman Achuthan of the Economic Cycle Research Institute says the U.S. is in a recession. Achuthan tells Bloomberg that jobs data is one key indicator signaling that recession is here. He also says he thinks GDP growth will be revised downward significantly for the first half of this year. Julian Callow, chief international economist at Barclays Capital, offers a counterpoint.

ECRI Says U.S. In Recession

Lakshman Achuthan of the Economic Cycle Research Institute says the U.S. economy is in recession. Achuthan, who had been forecasting a recession by mid-2012 for the past several months, tells Bloomberg that industrial production, manufacturing and trade sales, and personal income growth data is all indicating that a recession has begun. Achuthan says that a recession doesn’t have to involve a fall off an economic cliff, but is simply when the economy has peaked and is contracting. He also talks about the labor market, and his longer-term outlook for the economy.

ECRI Still Sees Recession Coming

The Economic Cycle Research Institute is standing by its call for the U.S. to enter recession in the middle of this year. ECRI COO Lakshman Achuthan tells Bloomberg that recent data is confirming what the group has been saying for some time: that recession is coming. A decline in the rate of job growth supports that belief, he says, adding that personal income growth is a “real weak spot”. He does add, however, that he thinks the recession should be relatively mild, though he sees the potential for more frequent recessions going forward.